this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.
most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.
of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.
NYT...
God lays it all out pretty clearly in Deut. 18:20-22.
If you claim to be speaking for God, and what you say doesn't happen, you are a FALSE PROPHET. No allowances made for messenger vs. predictor.
Sorry, messenger vs. predictor is not in the bible. Pretty cut and dry, man.
this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.
most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.
of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.
OK, I'll bite NYT...
From the July 15, 1922 Watchtower (in reference to 1925 predictions):
Some of them are of so remarkable a character as clearly to indicate that this chronology is not of man, but of God. Being of divine origin and divinely corroborated, present-truth chronology stands in a place by itself, absolutely and unqualifiedly correct.
What does "divine origin" mean?
What does divinely corroborated" mean?
Your thoughts are much appreciated.
Jer.
P.S. Personal opinion: guys on juice are a joke when it comes to fighting. Too imbalanced and cocky to think they can lose. Too bad steroids don't cover up pressure points :P
below is an email---just another example in a long history of having bethel speakers speculate on issues and matters that will never be put into print- yet for the poor listeners they leave with a feeling of new light.
we have all seen this type of info from the boys from bethel only to be told that it was the bro opinion and not the org- when the sh!t hit s the fan.
the org is fully aware that they have men with 20-50 yrs of bethel service out there giving goof balls talks and building up the hope of the rank and file knowing full well it will never happen or be true.
We could be termed a 'dangerous sect.'
If she hasn't heard this already, she's living in her own world.
hello hawk,.
could you shoot me an email?
i have some questions i would like to ask you re: blood..
Hello Hawk,
Could you shoot me an email? I have some questions I would like to ask you Re: blood.
Thanks!!
Jer.
this is really cool, if you have nothing better to do.
think of a dictator or tv sit-com character, and answer all the questions as if you were that character.
the system will figure out who you are.
It got me...
I was Heathcliff Huxtable from the Cosby show.
you are harming loyal jw.
i have been taken a closer look at many of the posters here on this board.
most of you are very critic about the jw and special about doctrines.
I think he's being sarcastic...
Good one !!!
i have been on this site for a bite.
reading posts and where are all the jw's?
we have people who have gotten out of the watchtower, good for all of you.
Zev..
I hate to hear that man. I've been going through similar (yet not as bad) troubles with my girlfriend. She became a dub while we were dating, and now I gotta get dunked if I wanna be with her.
Of course, it's MY fault that there's this wedge between us because if I loved her, I'd "be with her."
I F'n hate this religion...
Jer.
you really gotta wonder what kind of a scandal.
it would take to finally awaken witness zombies.
from their deluded stupor.. i'm enjoying this exposure of the current situation.
I wonder what kind of "incentive package" they give their lawyers etc, just to cover up their paper trail.
I believe that the defection (and subsequent publicity) of Barbara Anderson can only help others with inside knowledge get the truth out. I would love to see it open the floodgates of public exposure. The coming months will be interesting indeed.
Jer.
laura schlessinger is a us radio personality who dispenses advice to.
i have tried asking, but most women take offense.. d) lev.
he violates lev.
I don't go on sale until after Oktoberfest. I'm scheduled to be at the Queensmount hockey arena all next week in a drunken stupor, puking sausage and sauer kraut.
Me and Walter are gonna polka like there's no tomorrow!!
Ein Prosit,
Jer.
is evolution a fact or a theory?.
i suppose it depends on what you mean.. evolution in the sense of change from one generation to the next seams to be fact.. is well observed that offspring from a given creature will differ from the parent in different ways and thus after many generation can come to be quite different.. also that the genes of a creature can be affected by radiation from the sun and be alter in a novel way producing new and unique features in its offspring ( as long as the mutation is in the sperm or the egg).. that we came about via changes in the genes that eventually created a very different creature than that existed many generations ago , is that a fact?.
this requires that not only that there are changes between generation but also that these changes could be directed by different environments to such a degree that only certain specialised features could survive and reproduce offspring whilst other creatures have died out and only remain in fossilised form.. what evidence is there that such environments can and have existed?
Alan,
What are some good resources to read up on this stuff? I'd love to but don't know where to start.
Thanks,
Jer.
